tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post111311893748468636..comments2024-03-28T09:23:11.894+02:00Comments on From Cairo, with love.: John Paul the II a missed opportunity for the ArabsMohamedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397206715607675175noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113631425253072532005-04-16T08:03:00.000+02:002005-04-16T08:03:00.000+02:00Thanks Kat. That was very well written.Mohamed. Ag...Thanks Kat. That was very well written.<BR/><BR/>Mohamed. Again, some good questions. The answers are publicity. Hollywood is very good at generating interest in films. Did the producers of "Bab El Shams" plug into that marketing network? Or did they just throw the film out there and hoped people would see it? I never hear of it and I love indies. So, improve marketing. Unfortunatly, that takes Ron Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113547648508513332005-04-15T08:47:00.000+02:002005-04-15T08:47:00.000+02:00That was a very well thought out comment Kat. Glad...That was a very well thought out comment Kat. Glad you came back with that.<BR/><BR/>My point remains, that changing in order to present a rosy image from inside does not solve our problems. Yes, having the U.S. on our side would help, but it will never solve the problem. Those rosy images you talk about exist vividly, Palestinian intellectuals, as well as children eager to learn and build a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113531233652277492005-04-15T04:13:00.000+02:002005-04-15T04:13:00.000+02:00Thank you Sandmonkey.It's true sometimes we need t...Thank you Sandmonkey.<BR/><BR/>It's true sometimes we need to back off and ruminate on certain subjects.<BR/><BR/>As for poking the hornets nest, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't interested in the dialogue and attempting some understanding from both of our sides of the discussion.<BR/><BR/>I'm willing to keep poking it until we make progress if everyone else is willing to keep poking. <BR/><BR/>Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113440775231516672005-04-14T03:06:00.000+02:002005-04-14T03:06:00.000+02:00Thank you Sandmonkey. I've really enjoyed your blo...Thank you Sandmonkey. I've really enjoyed your blog. You seem to understand what I'm trying to say.<BR/><BR/>I would like to think that everyone is smart enough to know that I'm pushing buttons in order to get you to think. If I really was as bad as you think the average Yank is, then I wouldn't even be here. I would be over at the Fox new website.<BR/><BR/>I don't recall telling anyone to changeRon Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113412405990281772005-04-13T19:13:00.000+02:002005-04-13T19:13:00.000+02:00Mohamed, pls remove my previous post, i wrote it i...Mohamed, pls remove my previous post, i wrote it in haste and the typos changed the meaning of some sentences. Here it is again:<BR/><BR/>This isn't about PR for heaven's sake! Israel is America's hand in the Middle East, its part of an imperial project that serves INTERESTS. Israel did not do good PR work to get America's support. This is naive thinking. <BR/>Some people cited Palestinian 'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113411366737866532005-04-13T18:56:00.000+02:002005-04-13T18:56:00.000+02:00Sandmonkey, your essay is very convincing . That's...Sandmonkey, your essay is very convincing . That's a good way to put it. Wonderful PR if I may add.Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113408971839036422005-04-13T18:16:00.000+02:002005-04-13T18:16:00.000+02:00Ohh rats, it took me so long writing this thing i ...Ohh rats, it took me so long writing this thing i didn;t see Twosret's post. Good job babe. That's the way to do it!The Sandmonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01976533000897501165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113408878440712722005-04-13T18:14:00.000+02:002005-04-13T18:14:00.000+02:00Okay, I am gonna try to be the voice of reason her...Okay, I am gonna try to be the voice of reason here, even though it will probably get me in trouble, because I believe that I can bridge the miscommunication that is going on right now between the Ron & Kat camp and the Mohamed and Twosret camp. I will do it, even though it seems that with what’s going on right now with the discourse, that I am gonna regret it later. Oh well…<BR/><BR/>This The Sandmonkeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01976533000897501165noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113408326696480392005-04-13T18:05:00.000+02:002005-04-13T18:05:00.000+02:00Ron and Kat,You need to understand that some of wh...Ron and Kat,<BR/><BR/>You need to understand that some of what you say (the concept) I tend to agree with. My concern is that we are not talking about Marketing of fast moving consumer goods. We are talking nations, history, cultures and LAND.<BR/><BR/>I promise to sit back and read you again. I sencerely hope that you have good intentions in mind because that is what we need, reasonable, Twosrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933691355572314184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113386253222396512005-04-13T11:57:00.000+02:002005-04-13T11:57:00.000+02:00Hey Ron, have you nothing better to do than to tel...Hey Ron, have you nothing better to do than to tell us what we should do!!<BR/><BR/>.. and enough with the business analogies, will ya. I'm sick and tired of valuing everything on how much money you'll make out of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113385915374567512005-04-13T11:51:00.000+02:002005-04-13T11:51:00.000+02:00*sigh* There you guys go, shooting the messenger i...*sigh* There you guys go, shooting the messenger instead of the listening to the message. Don't you get it? I'm trying to point out message that is getting across to the average American.<BR/><BR/>This thread is not going in circles. It is going off track with posters trying to attack the thoughts of the messenger (me) instead of trying to understand the perception of the Palastinian situation asRon Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113385732583034372005-04-13T11:48:00.000+02:002005-04-13T11:48:00.000+02:00I was gonna say that in my Comment Dania, about Ch...I was gonna say that in my Comment Dania, about China, but I didn't want them to feel bad.<BR/><BR/>Although I agree with you Dania and appreciate your general comments, I don't appreciate taking this personal, and bringing unwelcomed comments from elsewhere over here.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for that, but I don't want to see this getting low.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113385138839543192005-04-13T11:38:00.000+02:002005-04-13T11:38:00.000+02:00Mohamed,What Americans can't understand that they ...Mohamed,<BR/><BR/>What Americans can't understand that they are building enemies themselves and failing misreably in their PR.<BR/><BR/>North Korean hates Americans, Russians hate Americans big part of Europe hate Americans. <BR/><BR/>The future is not America. The future is China. They will be history before you know it.<BR/><BR/>Dania-Saudi living in AmericaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113383799363864212005-04-13T11:16:00.000+02:002005-04-13T11:16:00.000+02:00Twosret,I made a comment to you before about how y...Twosret,<BR/><BR/>I made a comment to you before about how you can detect trouble. Larson got you this time Habibiti and wasted your valuable time.<BR/><BR/>The topic address all arabs but two of our guests are keen to focus on Palestine. <BR/><BR/>Kat, on her second post claims "I don't believe blindly that all Palestinians are blood thirsty terrorists," <BR/><BR/>You are dishonest Kat and I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113378374933663532005-04-13T09:46:00.000+02:002005-04-13T09:46:00.000+02:00Kat, Ron, you guys are going on and on in circles ...Kat, Ron, you guys are going on and on in circles (that's bad PR I'm telling you). I think we get what you mean, you want us to do what will please you in order to please you (and PR will come naturally).<BR/><BR/>Though I admit that the U.S. is currently the world super power, it doesn't mean that everyone should just fall on their knees to appease it.<BR/><BR/>The reason people in the middle Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113374708745121272005-04-13T08:45:00.000+02:002005-04-13T08:45:00.000+02:00Thank you Kat. You get it! You hit the nail on the...Thank you Kat. You get it! You hit the nail on the head.<BR/><BR/>Twosert. Listen to Kat. Instead of stepping back and looking the big picture like I asked, you go off debating the issues and telling me that I must be a lazy idiot for not caring or paying attention.<BR/><BR/>Again... that doesn't work. I feel my eyes glazing over and hear more "blah blah blah". I think I will ignore you and go Ron Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113370730723459162005-04-13T07:38:00.000+02:002005-04-13T07:38:00.000+02:00I think what Ron is trying to explain is, pointing...I think what Ron is trying to explain is, pointing to our problems is not helping you. Telling Americans to see it your way is not helping you.<BR/><BR/>Twosert, with all due respect, you are falling into the same trap.<BR/><BR/>Let's face reality, with all the things you mention about American issues, they are far and away from signaling the imminent fall of America.<BR/><BR/>The power does notKathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113365296530937102005-04-13T06:08:00.000+02:002005-04-13T06:08:00.000+02:00Ron Ron Ron,Israeli/Palestinian conflict, the Iraq...Ron Ron Ron,<BR/><BR/>Israeli/Palestinian conflict, the Iraq war and ME is one of the hottest topics in the world.<BR/><BR/>Everyone involved have some responsibility in this huge affair. Americans, Palestinians, Iraqis and Israelis. You make it sound like you have no share of this responsibility at all. The average American have time to watch the Bachelor/Bachelorette , the desperate house wivesTwosrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933691355572314184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113356606938294302005-04-13T03:43:00.000+02:002005-04-13T03:43:00.000+02:00Interesting questions Twosret. I'm glad you asked ...Interesting questions Twosret. I'm glad you asked them because they illistrate perfectly the problem that the Palistinians have with modern PR.<BR/><BR/>Step back a minute and look at what you wrote. Try to see the forest for the trees.<BR/><BR/>What you are asking me to do is work. You are asking me to research history, to flush out the truth from extremely biased news reports. To separate fact Ron Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113304867472298592005-04-12T13:21:00.000+02:002005-04-12T13:21:00.000+02:00As for looks, I thought Ariel Sharon was very ugly...As for looks, I thought Ariel Sharon was very ugly as well and Golda Meir was never exactly ahem attractive..it can't be all about looks come on ;)Highlanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532761296990891687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113287281508289872005-04-12T08:28:00.000+02:002005-04-12T08:28:00.000+02:00Ron,Thanks for your post. The reason I posted this...Ron,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your post. The reason I posted this topic is because I simply admit faliure in our PR. I think you have a good points in your post but it sounds like you are putting the blame mainly on the arabs.<BR/><BR/>Here are few questions that came to mind reading your post.<BR/><BR/>-Are you aware of the grave mistakes that the American Foreign policies have contributed to the Twosrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933691355572314184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113277046882331862005-04-12T05:37:00.000+02:002005-04-12T05:37:00.000+02:00Wow. A voice of sanity! Finally.I agree. I've met ...Wow. A voice of sanity! Finally.<BR/><BR/>I agree. I've met so many Palistinians who ask me as an American, "Why don't you guys ever listen to us?".<BR/><BR/>Believe it or not, the answer is very simple. Because Americans are sick and tired of hearing "death to America" chants, watching the flag be burned, and all the other retoric. Why should I pay attention to someone who is insulting me? Why Ron Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16030823782542340978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113271085185095292005-04-12T03:58:00.000+02:002005-04-12T03:58:00.000+02:00Twosert...thank you for the "outing" and allowing ...Twosert...thank you for the "outing" and allowing other's to make up their minds without due influence.<BR/><BR/>If I must give an explanation, it is simply that I don't believe in any realistic way that Israel can be made to "not exist", therefore, I don't find commentary to that regard productive and I do believe in two states, with security and contiguous borders, living in peace and, Kathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05208095650375780838noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113266814763751372005-04-12T02:46:00.000+02:002005-04-12T02:46:00.000+02:00The march planned for May 14 in D.C. is a golden P...The march planned for May 14 in D.C. is a golden P.R. opportunity for American Muslims to grab the media's attention and make meaningful speeches. I hope they can manage to do enough promotion to influence the media to give the march lengthy live coverage. I feel certain that Americans will be very interested to watch and hear what is said. We've been waiting for something like this from our Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113255322786575202005-04-11T23:35:00.000+02:002005-04-11T23:35:00.000+02:00Kat,On Sandmonkey blog you have called me and Magd...Kat,<BR/><BR/>On Sandmonkey blog you have called me and Magdee Terrorists, you went too far. I have made a promise to myself never to engage in futile discussions with you because you yourself have misrepresented the educated, reasonable, tolerant and knowledgeable segement of the western world.<BR/><BR/>Your racisit, biased nature is clear in your previous and current posting.<BR/><BR/>I will Twosrethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07933691355572314184noreply@blogger.com