tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post111365606805853730..comments2024-03-28T09:23:11.894+02:00Comments on From Cairo, with love.: Kefaya's rainbowMohamedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00397206715607675175noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113756755331833702005-04-17T18:52:00.000+02:002005-04-17T18:52:00.000+02:00This is an intresting post conversation so far bet...This is an intresting post conversation so far between "Mohamed" and MohamMed" almost good enought to be a "selftalk" of an "ordinary" enlightened Egytian ...<BR/>Keep at it, it's good stuff :-)<BR/>No confusion of who is who.Al Shariefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15529203856903350085noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113729698239255772005-04-17T11:21:00.000+02:002005-04-17T11:21:00.000+02:00( not Nassirists, not leftists, not liberals (Wafd...( not Nassirists, not leftists, not liberals (Wafd or Nour), not gov-NDP, and we all know now that they're not Ikhwan ) <BR/>that's exactly my point mohamed...<BR/>what's their social, political or economic plans?<BR/><BR/>anyway, madi's own personal journey is one of the most interesting ones out there...Mohammedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831463589299448412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113725702683251172005-04-17T10:15:00.000+02:002005-04-17T10:15:00.000+02:00I'm not talking about Kefaya here (no one is claim...I'm not talking about Kefaya here (no one is claiming that Kefaya is Islamist, they are mostly hardcore leftists), I'm talking about AlWasat's representation within Kefaya. They are participating in the Kefaya movement even though the main coordinator is Christian (while the Ikhwan <A HREF="http://www.arabicnews.com/ansub/Daily/Day/050415/2005041510.html" REL="nofollow">are criticizing</A> KefayaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113724688477568502005-04-17T09:58:00.000+02:002005-04-17T09:58:00.000+02:00I don't know about that mohamed...first, kefaya is...I don't know about that mohamed...<BR/>first, kefaya isn't an islamist party...<BR/>as for alwasat, i'm really skeptical.... the christians might be just there as a face lift, as the ikhwan used to do... throw in few women and few christians on the lists for PR...<BR/>I'm saying this because alwasat program ( which i read about a year ago) focuses on saying we are not like the ikhwan... we are Mohammedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831463589299448412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113722561903013692005-04-17T09:22:00.000+02:002005-04-17T09:22:00.000+02:00The interesting thing Mohammed is that this concep...The interesting thing Mohammed is that this concept is actually starting to be implemented on the ground by an Islamist political movement (not just in theory), somewhat represented by AlWasat Party (under construction).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113700393531218902005-04-17T03:13:00.000+02:002005-04-17T03:13:00.000+02:00Fahmy Howaidy has a book titled : mowatenon la thi...Fahmy Howaidy has a book titled : mowatenon la thimmiyon<BR/>"citizines and not thimma people" (ahl al thimma were requested to pay jizya)<BR/>its published in the 80's and I believe he's the first among islamists to talk about the issue of citizinship...Mohammedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16831463589299448412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10639763.post-1113671887194894132005-04-16T19:18:00.000+02:002005-04-16T19:18:00.000+02:00No, its not my interpretation. I have the talk by ...No, its not my interpretation. I have the talk by Dr. Selim that I refer to on a CD, explicitly saying that <I>gizzya</I> and <I>ahl aldhimma</I> are not applicable, and they should be replaced by the concept of <I>mowatna</I>.<BR/><BR/>Dr. Selim is not an official member of the Wasat Party, but he shares the same wasatteyya vision of Islam.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com